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Smokers are Idiots

by room101 @ 07/02/07 - 13:31:38

smoking

It shortens your life.
You’re more likely to get chronic bronchitis, emphysema, heart attacks, coronary diseases, stomach ulcers, peripheral vascular disease, and cancer of the lung, throat, mouth, bladder, kidney, pancreas, cervix or stomach.
You smell bad.
It’s a waste of money.
You can’t run / play sport properly.
You have a cough.
You have shit skin, a puckered mouth and will end up covered in wrinkles.
Your teeth, nails and tongue are yellow.
It can cause impotence and infertility.
If you do manage to have children, your smoking will slowly kill them.

Apart from that, though, it’s a pretty good idea.

It’s the passive smoking that really pisses me off. If smokers just all got together and sat in a smoke-filled sealed room and waited for their bodies to decompose, then that would be ok. But I doubt they’d go for it.

Smokers like the argument that it’s their choice and often point out that they don’t stop anyone else from drinking. Sure, but I think they might be a bit peeved if I stood next to them at the bar and poured some of my beer all over them and down their throat. Idiots. Second-hand smoke causes thousands of deaths every year and about half of children in Britain grow up in homes where at least one parent smokes. How crazy is that?

I suppose it’s keeping evolution going. We’re now able to cure almost every natural disease and affliction, in Western society at least, so it’s no longer a case of survival of the fittest, but survival of everyone (fit or otherwise). Smoking is fighting back, like a health tax on the stupid, and the stupid’s family and friends.

But you’re not really addicted and you’re going to quit soon anyway right?


 
 

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Nascosto_WolkNascosto_Wolk [Member]
2007-02-07 @ 13:41

You seem to be under the impression that smokers are somehow unaware of the health risks etc. of smoking. Mostly, we know that it's not good and it may very well kill us. And those that say they aren't addicted don't want to believe they are.

room101room101 [Member]
2007-02-07 @ 14:07

I think most smokers understand most of the risks, but in light of them I don't understand why they still smoke.

Why do you smoke? Do you want to quit?

I can't wait for the smoking ban to come in - it's long overdue.

[Visitor]

2007-02-07 @ 13:43

banning smoking in pubs up here (scotland) has made a great difference and profits in bars and clubs have actually gone up

Nascosto_WolkNascosto_Wolk [Member]
2007-02-07 @ 13:45

Increase in profits in city centre bars or in the pubs in the towns and villages?

normalguynormalguy [Member]
2007-02-07 @ 14:05

If I could be bothered I could rip your comments apart quite easily but let me make just 3 points:
1. Enjoying (or otherwise) a smoke has nothing to do with intellectual capacity/ability - there are many very famous intellectuals and talented people who have or do smoke, therefore to use the term 'idiot' is both naive and showing a lack of knowledge of social issues and trends.

2. Smokers are people, and as such are entitled to respect, simoply because they are people. To try and reduce them (albeit due to your ignorance) to 'idiots' shows just how naive and unsophisticated your prejudices are. I suppose you also think people with red front doors are fools?

3. Your statistics are flawed. You really should research your comments properly, or maybe you like calling other people idiots because you feel bad about your own intellectual inadequacies.

room101room101 [Member]
2007-02-07 @ 14:35

Thanks for your comments. I will answer them as briefly as I can:

1) You seem to be suggesting that someone cannot be gifted in one field and foolish in another. Learning that Einstein smoked should not make anyone more inclined to do so on intellectual grounds. And exactly which 'social trends' am I lacking knowledge of?

2) It's not a question of respect. My use of 'idiot(s)' refers to people's decision to smoke, and is not intended as a reductive summary of their character. By the way, I suggest you look up 'tautology' in your dictionary before you try and compose another sentence.

3) There is only ONE statistic in my post (on the proportion of children with parents who smoke) and it's correct. Please go to the NHS site [www.gosmokefree.co.uk/secondhandsmoke] for confirmation, if you think I made it up.

My point is that people who smoke can't have much regard for their own health (as confirmed by your photo) or the health of those around them. I think that is indisputable.

Old-NickOld-Nick pro
2007-02-07 @ 14:16

Impotence>? yeah right!

And anyway, Zippo lighters ROCK!

As the late, great Alan "Fluff" Freeman used to say

"40 a day, ya gotta die of something right?"

:)

Ed Hope [Visitor]
http://www.myspace.com/lastoftheromantics
2007-02-07 @ 16:02

I only smoke after sex... so I'm a 20 a day man.

Normal-Guy is clearly one of those pieced-queer-blog-freaks who get a little trip out of playing devils advocate. I agree he needs to look up 'tautology' too, he'd dispute that my red coat isn't red even though its made out of beetroot, its heavily embarrased and i've just had a nose bleed.

Also its a bit pathetic to say 'your statistics are flawed' and then not say why? Come on son, never done an essay before?! Statement - quote - conclusion. Not that I want to excose any of your intellectual inadequacies.

emilyb233emilyb233 [Member]
2007-02-22 @ 15:24

Can't wait for the smoking ban! The thing I hate the most is people who socially smoke - they aren't addicted and they just do it because everyone else is. I'm really hoping that the smoking ban will stop this kind of pathetic sheep-like behaviour. Loving the blog by the way.

room101room101 [Member]
2007-02-23 @ 15:56

That's so true. Part-time social smokers are arguably even more idiotic than heavy smokers, as they don't even have the addiction excuse. Having said that, I think a lot of them are more dependent than they realise. The smoking ban is going to be brilliant.

AbileneAbilene pro
2007-03-08 @ 12:13

Ahhhh and there was me thinking I got my degree based on intellect. Obviously it must have been the short skirts that did it, as I am an idiot. ;)

room101room101 [Member]
2007-03-08 @ 12:56

Maybe your degree was in Missing The Point Studies...

I'm not saying that there is any link between smoking and academic potential, or achievement. The decision to smoke is, however, an incredibly stupid one. It is also an unbelievably selfish decision, for the reasons I gave in my post.

AbileneAbilene pro
2007-03-09 @ 11:01

Ahhh welcome to the sarcasm club.

One of the wonderful things about a democratic society is the freedom of choice, speech and opinion. Both of our own and the understanding that others have that same freedom.

I do agree that smoking is a nasty, smelly, unhealthy habit. Then, so is marriage ;)

lisam25lisam25 [Member]
2007-03-08 @ 12:31

i enjoy smoking, i know it kills, and i don't want to quit. and i believe everyone is entitled to their opinion

room101room101 [Member]
2007-03-08 @ 12:47

I agree that everyone is entitled to their opinion. The freedom of choice issue is different though. I don't think it should be your choice to kill other people by smoking.

If wearing a red jumper in public seriously harmed other people, including your friends and family, would you still wear one? I suspect not.

lisam25lisam25 [Member]
2007-03-08 @ 12:49

i see where you are coming from but,everyone has a choice in life, drinking, smoking, taking drugs, turning left instead of right, if that is taken away from people, that choice that makes us who we are, what would happen?

room101room101 [Member]
2007-03-08 @ 13:09

1) If we took all choices away, we would completely lose what it is to be human and alive.

2) On the other hand, if we were free to make any choice without fear of recrimination, we would be left with an anarchic or lawless state.

The solution to every human society lies in a sensible compromise between these opposites. I think removing choices that directly harm the physical state of others is a perfectly sensible starting point for a system of government. Whilst not as dramatic as sexual assault or murder, smoking falls into this category.

lisam25lisam25 [Member]
2007-03-08 @ 15:52

i just feel that yes smoking is a bad thing and i understand the government trying to ban it so more people will give up, but what about all the drug dealers? the people who take a life and then get ridiculous sentences? the rapists, child molesters? the state of the nhs? maybe the bigger problems need to be sorted first?

[Visitor]

2007-03-08 @ 15:36

You've made Room 101's point all by yourself.

It is everyone's individual "choice" to smoke, blah blah. I choose not to. So if I sit next to a smoker, why do I suddenly lose my right to choose?

lisam25lisam25 [Member]
2007-03-08 @ 15:48

you make that choice to sit next to someone who smokes, even though you don't smoke yourself. i'm just trying to get my point across, yes i understand that people who don't smkoe don't want to inhale smoke and therefore breathe in second hand smoke and increase their risks, but would you sit in a pub which as a non smoking section but then choose to sit in the smoking section? and then start to cough towards the poeple who are smoking?

everyone has a choice in life, it's up to them how they use those choices

Nascosto_WolkNascosto_Wolk [Member]
2007-03-10 @ 21:14

It all comes down to addiction. Nicotine is more addictive that heroin apparantly. But don't condemn all smokers because it's really not that easy and we're all still under the impressionthat smoking relieves stress! (Even though it doesn't!)

[Visitor]

2007-03-08 @ 15:55

Anyone got a light?

SketchWeaselSketchWeasel [Member]
2007-03-08 @ 21:30

I wasn't going to enter into this discussion as I don't feel the need to justify my addiction to nicotine. I am a responsible smoker - I smoke where I'm allowed to and don't smoke where I'm not.

I have my 'own' room in the house where I can smoke, if people chose to join me in the room they have given their informed consent to do so, they know it's my room and if my daughter comes in there I don't smoke and I am prepared to stand in the garden in the pissing rain to exercise my freedom to smoke.

I respect other peoples wishes and watch many friends drink to excess, if that's what they want but as the daughter of a recovering alcoholic it's something I chose not to do regularly anymore but you won't hear me lecturing them for their decision to get pissed.

We all need a crutch from time to time, some of us however are addicted, whether it be alcohol, nicotine, gambling, sex or many of the other addictions that humans have found throughout time.

Here endeth my ramble ...

room101room101 [Member]
2007-03-09 @ 14:58

Thanks for posting.

If your smoke is not inhaled by those around you then I have no problem with it. Actually, this isn't strictly true. Smoking also puts a significant and unnecessary strain on the national health service. Incidentally, the cost of this strain is not outweighed by the tax on cigarettes.

I think it's great that you try to protect your daughter and I understand that smoking is an addiction and therefore not a simple 'choice' as such. Furthermore, I completely agree that drinking can also be a dangerous addiction. It causes extreme violence in some cases and can seriously harm the consumer. The distinction here, though, is that drinking ten pints is a personal choice that does not physically affect someone in your vicinity.

Nascosto_WolkNascosto_Wolk [Member]
2007-03-09 @ 15:11

Anyone who smokes and says they aren't addicted is a liar.

SketchWeaselSketchWeasel [Member]
2007-03-09 @ 16:40

I totally agree! I am an addict and have been since the age of 14 years old... it's scary this year see's the 25th anniversary of my first cigarette and I still don't want to stop!

Nascosto_WolkNascosto_Wolk [Member]
2007-03-10 @ 21:09

Why do you not want to stop? It tastes bad and doesn't make you feel better at all - in fact it kills you! I smoke and I hate it, but quitting isn't that easy. I wish I'd never smoked. Surely you can't have no regrets at all?

[Visitor]

2007-03-11 @ 16:27

I smoked since I was 10. And most of my adult life, I smoked 30 a day.

They I gave up 2 years ago.

It was so difficult, it really was so hard, and I had 'severe reactive depression' because smoking from such a young age had damaged my brain's ability to manage serotonin properly.

But I'm glad I gave up now, because I do feel better and have a bit more money. Giving up was like jumping through fiery hoops, so I'd never be nasty to someone who hadn't managed it yet. Non-smokers simply cannot understand how hard it is for us. I don't mean that in a bad way, but if you haven't experienced it, then you cannot empathise. In the same way I couldn't empathise with a recovering alcoholic. But I can "sympathise" though, and be caring about the person.

When I smoked I did feel like I was being judged harshly, and I couldn't understand why, because I enjoyed smoking so very, very much.

But at the same time, I started to young, that I could not remember what life was like before cigarettes. Life is better without them, eventually.

But it has to be each person's decision, and I think we live in a very judgmental world. People need to be kinder to eachother, maybe, in their words and deeds.

room101room101 [Member]
2007-03-12 @ 15:57

Great post. I know a couple of people who used hypnotherapy and stopped smoking straight away. I think it's quite expensive but worth it!

[Visitor]

2007-03-14 @ 18:36

your entitled to your view

so i guess you dont do anything anti social do you

i find men offensive can we ban them from social places to

room101room101 [Member]
2007-03-15 @ 10:42

I have no anti-social habits that kill people.

ronkeytonkronkeytonk [Member]
2007-03-29 @ 00:47

ever broken the speed limit? even by 5mph?

Look i get your point but for gods sake, our society is becoming so pampered. We wont be able to dress ourselves or cross the road without wrapping up in bubble wrap soon. As for the drain on the NHS, smokers contribute more than they take with the amount of tax they pay on cigs. The government will rape your wages for tax if everyone stopped smoking. Are fat people idiots too?

Another thing, why is everyone showing off on this blog and trying to prove how clever they are? "Tautology" what the flying swamp donkey would that be now??

room101room101 [Member]
2007-03-29 @ 09:47

Yes, the tax on cigarettes amounts to more than the estimated financial cost on the NHS (about £1.7 billion). But it's not simply a question of money.

Think about how many appointments and operations are done every year to treat smoking-related illnesses. Then take a look at the waiting lists for serious non-smoking-related operations on the NHS. Do you get my point? Say your sister falls down the stairs and ruptures her knee ligaments. She will probably have to wait a couple of months to be diagnosed by a specialist, 4 or 5 months waiting for an MRI scan to assess the damage, and then about 7 months waiting for the surgery. Meanwhile, hospitals are full of fucking imbeciles who voluntary inhale smoke into their lungs, which they KNOW will kill them and those around them.

Do I think fat people are idiots? No. Do they force food into the mouths of those standing near them? No.

Yes I have broken the speed limit before. Good analogy, by the way. Interesting that it's illegal, isn't it?

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